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Hare Krishna and humble obiesances to all devotees. All glories to Shri Guru and Shri Gauranga. All glories to Shrila Prabhupada. The above blog post is an apt post to read and consider in trying to obtain a clearer understanding of the "Female Diksha Guru (FDG)" topic, with respect to the propagation of the chanting of the Hare Krishna mahamantra in the current human society, in the earthy planet, with due consideration for the current time, place and circumstances. After some reading and hearing about this topic and after reading this purport by HDG A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Shrila Prabhupada, I have concluded to myself, in my humble opinion, that female-bodied but steadily situated in "krsnamsa jivatma platform" or "soul platform" Vaishnavi matajis indeed acted as diksa gurus, but in cases of emergency. The general trend in Sanatana dharma, and even specifically in Vaisnavism also, is that Vaishnavi matajis didn't regularly act as diksa gurus. The religious duties of male-bodied and female-bodied jivatmas are of distinct natures under the purview of the Daivi Varnasrama system of leading lives. Even when the jivatmas (who constitutionally are gender-free) desire to come to this material world by exercise of their free will or by Shri Krishna's plan, to lead their lives under a materialistic "ego", under influence of different personally chosen changeable temporary material identities, they should try to abide by the "trend of living" as per the eternal Daivi Varnashrama system. This will lead to minimum suffering during stay in this material world which is "dukhalayam asasvatam" (miserable and temporary). With due respect I wish to also share my thoughts next in a little detail, w.r.t. the topic in question.

For the bare minimum Krishna bhakti sadhana for going back to home, back to Godhead, there are two necessary practices - following of four regulative principles (both grossly and subtly) and at least offenseless (if not pure) chanting of the Hare Krishna mahamantra, after formal Harinama initiation and later initiations. In one ISKCON lecture by a senior devotee I once heard that HDG Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura Maharaja says that if a practicing devotee daily does only bare minimum Krishna bhakti sadhana, somehow, then the material mode of passion (rajoguna) and mode of ignorance (tamoguna) will be in full swing for putting material covering over the pure consciousness of the jivatma. A diksa guru needs to monitor the execution of the above two practices sincerely, strictly and seriously for one's disciples, throughout one's life and throughout lives of one's disciples. So, in the context of the aforesaid topic, in the current situation of the earthly planet, I raise some questions here that:

1) Will the formalization of female Vaishnavi diksha guru-ship bring forward extraordinary good results w.r.t. people taking up the lifelong vow of high-quality chanting of the Hare Krishna mahamantra, very seriously?

2) Will that change the eternal nature of free will of the gender-free jivatamas?

Also, I cite here a question which recently HH Bhakti Vikasa Swami Maharaja raised in one of his recent videos in his official YouTube channel about the "FDG" topic - Is there an emergency for the current human society to have female Vaishnavi diksha gurus, in the earthly planet?

Some 350+ or so years back the earthly planet was predominantly under the ruling of deviant Christian, deviant Islamic and many other so-called "religious" leaders, supported by atrocious kings, military leaders and financers. In those days, the Indian sub-continent was also mainly under dominance of deviant Islamic military followers and deviant Islamic religious leaders. Thus in such a situation of emergency Shrimati Jahnava Mata, a pure Vaisnavi and eternal consort of Supreme Lord Nityananda prabhu acted as diksa guru. The Gaura Mandala and the Indian sub-continent was under cruel ruling of the deviant Islamic leaders. The non-Islamic faith related rulers had also got highly constrained and restricted to ruling over much smaller tracts of the earthly planet, compared to the rest of the surface area of the earthly planet. Shrimati Sita Thakurani mataji, Shrimati Hemalata Thakurani mataji, Shrimati Gaurangapriya devi mataji and Shrimati Gangamata Goswamini mataji gave diksas in that historic politically difficult time, place and circumstances and that too not to a very big number of people. Further, for all these transcendental female-bodied Vaisnavi diksa gurus the Supreme Lord Shri Krishna actually manifested His transcendental pastimes for the general public to witness. Real display divine spiritual pastimes. These Vaisnavis did not just get approval as diksa gurus based on the big counts of followers of their teachings.

What I understood about the "Female Diksha Guru" topic, after hearing lectures on Varnashrama system, lectures of HH Bhakti Vikasa Swami Maharaja, HG Basu Ghosh prabhu, Namarasa podcast channel videos, Akincana Gocara YouTube channel and some more lectures and the several comments by people from different ideological backgrounds in the relevant YouTube videos, Facebook posts, comments on ISKCON SAC resolution for ISKCON Vaishnavi Ministry and from this current post, is that, under the umbrella of principles of Gaudiya Vaishnavism (and of eternal Sanatana Dharma at large), female-bodied devotionally advanced devotee matajis may be allowed to act as diksha gurus when the need is exigent (emergency).

Female-bodied pure devotee Vaishnavis are actually "optional" diksha gurus in "Daivi Varnashrama" system, according to my humble understanding. Sometimes in situations of emergency they can certainly act as diksha gurus and there are a few examples of that in the history of Sanatana dharma. Historically, pure devotee Vaishnavis hardly acted as diksha gurus.

We don't see great ladies like Ahalya, Draupadi, Kunti devi, Tara and Mandodari (the pancakanyas) becoming bent to give diksa to many followers and we also don't see their followers appealing for declaration of these "maha-naris" as diksa gurus. Similarly for mothers Sita (who acted as earthly human incarnation of internal potency of Supreme Lord Shri Rama), Durga (not just demigoddess but more than demigoddess, just like Lord Shiva is not a deva or demigod, but is maha-deva, 'maha-demigod'), Sati (higher realm human incarnation of goddess Durga), Sarasvati, Savitri and Gayatri, Anasuya, Arundhati, Devahuti, Gargi, Maitreyi, Khana, and many others. They were highly competent religious ladies to take extraordinary steps for the attempt of revival of Daivi Varnashrama system in the human society in the earthly planet, during their times.

Also, we hear in talks between Shankhachuda and Tulasi devi that in the beginning of creation two categories of women appeared: first category (vāstavarūpā and praśasta) was for trustworthy women and the second category (kṛtyā apraśasta - uttamā, madhyamā and adhamā) for all other types of women. A jivatama is eternal part and parcel of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Shri Krishna. That is, a jivatma is kṛṣṇāṁśa and is neither masculine nor feminine. It is under the materialistic influence of the pisaci Maya of the family of Irreligion, who is an agent of Mother Durgadevi (Mahamaya), that a conditioned soul or jivatma falsely identifies oneself as masculine and feminine and contends for life's "new" demands with other jivatmas. By contending, such conditioned souls intensify one of these two gender-based false identities allowing mind's dictates to overpower one's eternal true identity as krsnamsa jivatma, by misuse of free will, to employ "ego" to intensify the false identification tendency for masculinity or feminism.

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Your Servant

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Hare Krishna

I don't understand the crux with title.

So, should females be Diksha guru or not?

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